Thursday, September 23, 2004

You know abe, I've been thinking...

Moe: You know abe, I've been thinking, should someone clean up this mess?
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Abe: The thing about cleanin' up any mess is this, you gotta be able to do it with real clean hands or else you end up just adding your filth to it. I've been workin' for decades on getting myself clean enough to just walk in the room with a real mess.
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Moe: Well I suppose that presents a conundrum of sorts. There's is always this sense of futility knowing that the mess cleaned up leaves another mess. But isn't that we do anyway? Just like breathing, one breath leads to another and another and another until we stop. Messes are things to clean up, the question is always who, clean hands or no. Look at November 2nd, isn't it a question of who has cleaner hands? Tough question considering that they both have spent time down at the abattoir.
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Abe: I'm not talking about making another mess, but rather making this mess worse, or even making a real mess from what wasn't a mess to begin with. Like you said, "Messes are things to clean up," but I'm not sure that what I do cleans. Assumptions assumptions assumptions. It's like story of the man who made the flowers prettier by painting them. The Greeks called that hubris. My pappy just called it, "Dumb-assedness."
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How do we define something as a "mess" in the first place? And, how do we know we can believe the definers? Boy, talk about November 2nd! It seems like right now we're all willing to climb down into the muck-pit those two bloody-boys have defined and been diggin' from the nice clean dirt. We fight to hang our butts out over the pit-lip, "dump" our respective shits down into it and then complain about the stench rising up. What a mess. SURPISE!!
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Excuse me while I take some time to clean my hands.
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Moe: Reminds me of "the Evil Empire" and how it rotted from within long before the Righteous West spent it into oblivion. Their "mess" was created by refusing to accept reality. The people writing reports had to gussy up what they said to their bosses or they risked of being airbrushed out of society. But reality is a lady who will not wait and when she comes to confront the lovers of myth "messes happen".
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Now fast forward to the New World Order and you see the same thing happening. All the societal estates have been subsumed by a self righteous myth which assumes an incorruptabilty that history says just not exist in the ministerings of man. There is no position one can take these days that doesn't assume a more superior and moral foundation. What you may regard as a stench rising up, others exault as a "sweet smelling savour" - a reward for their efforts.
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A mess? You're damned right. I'm just waiting for the media pap declaring with unbounded glee that the New & Improved® War to End All Wars™ is upon us. So, good luck washing your hands. Chances are you will not be able to get that stain off.

7 Comments:

At 6:41 AM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

.... just kicking back a bit listening to Chris Rea...ooooh, little blonde plaits... and coffee in hand.... this could be my lucky day...
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Ahhh, that was a beautiful night last night. That autumnal air has that freshness that always reminds me of spring, only in reverse. Strange to say, but these last four years have had that similar "alternative universe" feel to it: familar but a half a turn away.

 
At 3:02 PM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Abraham: Yeah, sometimes the only way for us to know how things are is to not know how things are. The only way to see things clearly is to see how unclear they are. The only way to see how great life is is to see how fucked up it is. The contrast, so often, seems to be so vivid and palpable. Dualism makes for great drama. Perhaps this is because the contrast is usually not what we expect--not what we're trying to see--and so our eyes are less distorted with our intent in looking.
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Sometimes the best way to find your way is to head towards where you know you don't want to get.

 
At 6:41 AM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Moses: Mmmm... the lure of the unknown. Reminds me of a fish contemplating that worm on the hook. If it is a "buddhist" fish - which I imagine that they all are - the fate awaiting it is not fate at all, it is just is what it is: dinner. A "christian" fish wouldn't want to bite without some assurances that it wouldn't end up as a McFish Burger.
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But I agree with you that there are times when we have contradict ourselves and open that door # 3 leaving the drama behind for a fresh page. I believe that this is exactly where we are now in Babylon. The situation has moved so far beyond repair that there is no longer the luxury of deciding between Door # 1 or Door # 2. This is where that feeling of living in an alternative universe rises: standing before that inevitable third door with the cosmic fisherman asking, "So, poissons, do you feel lucky?"

 
At 6:58 PM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Abraham: "Yes, I am the chosen one," says the fishhead watching his body get filleted on the other end of the chopping block. And, why does he say that? Because what's the other choice?
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It reminds me of an interview Spalding Gray did with the Dalai Lama. Spalding, that now famously dead fish, asked, "With so much trouble and suffering in the world, how can you smile and be so positive and cheerful?" The Dalai Lama replied, "What's the other choice?"
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Why do so many more people slit their wrists in "developed" nations? Perhaps it's because too much "safety" makes life seem worthless. When events are swirling around us in the extremes, our judgement to life becomes the scale on which the world is weighed. Our "Yes" or "No" tilts everything either for or against us.

 
At 8:11 AM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Moses: This inevitable "tilt" as you call it is what is the thrust of history - forget about there being a "for" or an "against" us. Now, more than ever, we are dogs with our noses out the window smelling what is coming. Saying "yes", saying "no" really won't change much in the future because the past has stood up and demanded to be reconded with and both hell and high water are coming to make all choices moot and mute.
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Deliverance will come, but not before more blood has been sacrificed to the various versions of the same God. History is replete with Believers needing to be bludgeoned before attained the enlightened position of peace. It seems the Dalai Lama is aready ahead of the curve. Perhaps it is time for the populi to start asking, "What would Buddha do?".

 
At 10:01 PM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Abraham: I disagree. Nothing is more powerful than our "yes" or "no," and nothing can silence it. Even our ingnorance only muffles the fact of it to our ears. And, don't think I am talking about voting. I'm talking about free will. If we say "yes" it changes everything in the past, present and future. Hell and high water become toy words in the face of our "yes."

Asking, "What would Buddha do?" is a waste of time. It'd be better to ask, "What would I do if I were free?"

 
At 3:14 AM, Blogger Santari Santari said...

Moses: Yeah, I suppose you would disagree. But the falsity of your question lies in the assumption behind it. We as a civilization are not free. We are confined by the leaders we elect, the laws we write, the insecurities we possess, the responsibilities we take, the doctrines we believe and a host of other impediments large and small. Individually it may be possible to find freedom, but as a culture it is impossible; someone has to clean up the messes.
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My posing the question of what Buddha would do was an attempt to counter the "What would Jesus do?" slogan making the rounds these days. Those asking are not interested in the Sermon On the Mount, but, ironically, what is said in the older texts. By ask what Buddha would do I hope shift the focus away from war and onto peace and reconciliation. Perhaps it was too feeble of a hope against your optimism in the power of "yes". I recognize that I am in this fog of current events and thus can't seem to see the blue sky you seem to.

 

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